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man u guys are wack, both are great, both in their own ways, u cant compare, grow up little boys
i am entitled to my opinion.
tuge,who r u.everyone knows pac had moe talent.more albums,more credibility,more sence,more lyrics,more well everything,biggie is good but pas is incredible
*pac
2 pac
Tuge is all mean and shit.
Well my opinion is that Biggie was the best . Just listen to Warning, Suicidal Thoughts, Respect, shit Biggie was deep as hell. But on the other hand, Pac was a easier to promote. Digital Underground put him out there, commercially. That made him easier to take some of his music mainstream. Pac was played more on the radio,Biggie was played more in the clubs. 2 totally different styles. Biggie had NY locked thats why Pac moved out West. Still I think BIG would freestyle Pacs ass out. Maybe that is just because I had heard alot more of Biggie. Plus, had several of his underground shits. Easily 2 of the best ever to grace the microphone. RIP to both!
2pac first n then biggie.
there both up at the best rappers but pacs better and ya'll rite pac got biggie in the business although both of there presence will foreva be remebered R.I.P
Yeah, RIP for real. Someone ought to stop making them make records. Let these brothers alone. Its disrespectful.
tupacs got a new album out soon 2,eminem producing it.godamn!
Biggie would fucking absolutely murder the fucking mic! Pac caressed it. Biggie never got his full chance at hip-hop, Pac did. But Biggie Smalls would annhiliate Tupac. Big ups to Bed Sty!
Which one of them did more freestyles?
I know Big did tons of them. I don't now too much about Pacs stuff. I was just a real huge Biggie fan. Which obviously drifted me away from Tupac. I never really got into Pac like that since I am such a Biggie fan. I'm sure Tupac had tons of freestyle shit also.
ive heard about 18 pac freestyles tha aint tha many i know,but man he was fucking amazin,ive hearda lot of big stuff to,n in my oppinion pac was better.its just a shame they aint here 2day,coz u gotta agree theyd kick any mcs ass out there now
Yes, I could pretty much guarantee that one. If they were here now, they'd be the top 2. They would not fall off for a while, even if they did then. But of course BIG would be #1 and Pac a distant 2nd.(HaHa) Rock on UK
yall forgettin tupac invented thug life,biggie even went along with them rules,nowadays is so different i dunno,maybe pac n biggie would of settled there dispute n put tha others to rest....i cant believe 50 cent said "till makaveli returns its all eyes on me" now do u reckon pac would of liked tha shit,no!!!
tupac didnt invent being a thug. he went to private school.
i know u idiot,shows how much u know coz pac did invent thug life....u not read the rules??ima find the link now....yall be intrested in this
if u dont know much bout pac heres his life time line!! ........................................................................................................... Tupac Life-line September 1968 Tupac's mother, Afeni Shakur, joins the New York Black Panther party at age 22. April 1969 Afeni is arrested and charged with conspiracy to bomb several public areas in New York City. While out on bail, Afeni courts two men: Legs, a local hood, and Billy, a member of the party. February 1971 Afeni, pregnant with Tupac, has her bail revoked; she's sent to the Women's House of Detention in Greenwich Village. June 16, 1971 Shortly after his mom is acquitted on bombing charges, Tupac Amaru Shakur is born in New York. Tupac Amaru are Inca words meaning "shining serpent." Shakur is Arabic for "thankful to God." 1975-1983 Tupac's family shuttles between the Bronx and Harlem, at times living in shelters. 1983 Legs comes to live with the Shakur family; Tupac "claims" him as his father. Legs introduces Afeni to crack. September 1983 Afeni enrolls 12- year-old Tupac in the 127th Street Ensemble, a Harlem theater group. In his first performance Tupac plays Travis in A Raisin in the Sun. June 1986 Shakur's family moves to Baltimore. As MC New York, Tupac writes his first rap. September 1986 Tupac enrolls at the Baltimore School for the Arts, where he studies ballet and acting. June 1988 Tupac and his family move to Marin City, California. "leaving that school affected me so much," he said later. "I see that as the point where I got off track." Shortly after, Tupac moves in with a neighbor and begins selling drugs. August 1988 Mutulu Shakur, Tupac's stepfather, is sentenced to sixty years in prison for his involvement in a 1981 armored-car-robbery. 1990 Tupac joins Digital Underground as a roadie/dancer/rapper. While on tour, he learns that his mother is using crack. January 3, 1991 Tupac makes his recording debut on the DU's This Is an E.P. Release. November 12,1991: 2Pacalypse Now is released. Shortly thereafter, Tupac files a $10 million lawsuit against the Oakland police for alleged brutality following an arrest for jaywalking. January 17, 1992 Tupac makes his big-screen debut in Ernest Dickerson's Juice, earning praise for his portrayal of Bishop. He is perhaps best remember for the line "I am crazy. And I don't give a fuck!" April 11, 1992 Ronald Ray Howard, 19, shoots a Texas trooper. Howard's attorney claims 2Pacalypse Now, which was in his client's tape deck, incited him to kill. August 22, 1992 Tupac has an altercation with old acquaintances in Marin City. A 6 year-old bystander is shot in the head. Tupac's half brother, Maurice Harding, is arrested buy released due to lack of evidence. September 22, 1992 Tupac is denounced by Vice President Day Quayle, who says 2Pacalypse Now :has no place in our society." February 1, 1993 Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. is released and eventually goes platinum. March 13, 1993 Tupac has a fight with a limo driver in Hollywood who accuses him of using drugs in the car. Tupac's arrested, but the charges are dropped. April 5, 1993 Tupac is arrested in Lansing, Michigan, for taking a swing at a local rapper with a baseball bat during a concert. He's sentenced to ten days in jail. July 23, 1993 John Singleston's Poetic Justice, starring Tupac and Janet Jackson, is released. Before filing began, Jackson demanded Shakur take an HIV test before she would do any kissing scenes. October 31, 1993 Tupac is arrested for allegedly shooting two off-duty Atlanta Police officers who he says were harassing a black motorist. Charges are eventually dropped. November 18, 1993 A 19 year-old women, whom Tupac picked up four days earlier in a New York nightclub, is allegedly sodomized and sexually abused by the rapper and three friends. December 1993 John Singleton is forced by Columbia Pictures to drop the rapper from the cast of his upcoming film, Higher Learning. March 10, 1994 Tupac is sentenced to fifteen days in a Los Angeles jail for punching out director Allen Hughes. (Hughes and his brother, Albert, had dropped Tupac from Menace II Society) March 23, 1994 Tupac stars as Birdie, a troubled drug dealer, in Above The Rim. The soundtrack album, featuring the song "Pour Out a Little Liquor," recorded by Tupac's group, Thug Life, sells two million copies. September 7, 1994 Two Milwaukee teens murder a police officer and cite Tupac's "Souljah's Story" as there inspiration November 30, 1994 While on a trial for sex and weapons charges, Tupac is shot five times and robbed of $40,000 worth of jewelry in the lobby of a Times Square recording studio. Tupac checks himself out of the hospital less than three hours after surgery. The case remains unsolved. December 1, 1994 Tupac is acquitted of sodomy and weapons charges but is found guilty of sexual abuse. February 14, 1995 Tupac is sentenced to up to four and a half years and immediately begins severing his jail time in New York's Rikers Island penitentiary. April 1, 1995 While he's incarcerated, Tupac's third album, Me Against the World, debuts at No. 1 on Billboard's pop chart. Fueled by the single "Dear Mama," the album goes double platinum in seven months. April 1995 In a VIBE interview from jail, Tupac renounces his "Thug Life" persona and commits himself to positive works. He also implicates Biggie Smalls, Puffy Combs, Andre Harrell, his close friends Stretch, and others in the recording studio ambush. August 1995 Biggie, Puffy and Harrell tell VIBE they had no connection to Tupac's shooting. October 1995 Death Row Records CEO Suge Knight posts $1.4 million bond to release Tupac, who immediately flies to L.A., signs with Death Row, and begins recording All Eyez on Me. November 30, 1995 Exactly one year after Tupac's shooting, Randy "Stretch" Walker is murdered execution-style in Queens. February 1996 In VIBE, Tupac suggests he's been sleeping with Biggie's wife, Faith Evans. Faith denies the stories. February 13, 1996 Tupacs Death Row debut, All Eyez on Me- rap's first double CD- is released. March 29, 1996 Words are exchanged and a gun is pulled when Death Row and Bad Boy employees face off after the Soul Train awards in Los Angeles. April 25, 1997 All Eyez on Me goes quintuple platinum. May 1996 Tupac and Snoop release "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted." In the video, caricatures of Biggie and Puffy are punished for setting up Tupac. June 4, 1996 Death Row releases Tupac's Hit 'Em Up," a brutal diatribe against Biggie, Bad Boy, Mobb Deep, and others. September 4, 1996 Tupac returns to New York for the MTV Music Video Awards and gets into a scruffle. September 7, 1996 After leaving the Mike Tyson- Bruce Seldon fight in Las Vegas in Suge Knight's car, Shakur is shot four times in the chest by an assailant in a white Cadillac. Knight, who connections with the Bloods, escapes with a minor injury. Shakur is rushed to University Medical Center, where he undergoes surgery, including the removal of his right lung. September 11,1996 A Compton man who police say is associated with the LA Crips is shot to death while sitting in his car, the first in a series of gang related murders. Police begin investigating pissble connections to Tupac's shooting. Friday, September 13, 1996 After six days in critical condition, Tupac Shakur is pronounced dead at 4:03 p.m. His body is later cremated, he was 25. November 5, 1996 Makaveli album, The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, released. This page was Typed by TupacHQ February 28, 1997 Suge Knight is sentenced to nine years in prison for his rile in an attack on Orlando Anderson the night of Tupac's shooting. March 9, 1997 The Notorious B.I.G. is murdered in Los Angeles in a drive by shooting. October 8, 1997 Gang Related, co-starring Tupac and James Belushi, is released. Nine days later, the soundtrack, which includes four Tupac songs, comes out on Death Row. November 25, 1997 R U Still Down? [Remember Me] a double CD of previously unreleased Tupac tracks, comes out on Amaru Records, a label established to be run by Afeni Shakur. May 29, 1998 Orlando Anderson is killed during a dispute at a Los Angeles car wash. November 24, 1998 2pac's Greatest Hits, a double CD of greatest hits and 4 previously unreleased Tupac tracks, comes out on Death Row/Interscope/Amaru Records
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reading that about tupac it seems inevitable that he would be shot to death.
they both were great artist, they both did there thing! :lol:
[quote:f2970edcaa="Anonymous"]they both were great artist, they both did there thing! :lol:[/quote:f2970edcaa] You got that right and I think people like the one who had the most influence on their life. Everybody's favorite artist is gonna be remembered for some great memories.
i think tu pac was and maybe is the greater cause he made his tracks about his life and his voice is better than biggies and rap comes from the westside and biggie is one of the rappers from the east and i think the story about the west and east is just shit cause its not important that you come from the east or from the westside peoples are peoples.the east west story make kids like 14 till 16 worse cause they want to be like lesane parish crooks ore the notorious b.i.g and smoke joints like them bit this is not good.in my opinion it is good that they died but tu pac is like one of my best friend.
ice-walk, what you mean it is good they died? LOL, thats cold brother.
i understand,but pac knew he was gonna die,so thas why all these tracks are comin out...he musta been doin over time in tha studio..unlike big
[quote:adf79936ba="5-0Yo"]ice-walk, what you mean it is good they died? LOL, thats cold brother.[/quote:adf79936ba] i agree dat was low.. they both were fkn arsum but pac is me personal fav i gotta say peace
don't worry. suge knight has even more unreleased tupac tracks so you can expect more from your hero for long.
i would definatley have to say from a personal standpoint that pac was better but whoever said everone gets their own opinion they're exactly right, OBVIOUSLY to some people pac is better and to other people biggie is better, this argument could never be settled, cmon silly boyz
Well :D I would have to say tupac cuz if biggie was the greatest he would have a course you can take in colleage about the knowledge and wisdom of everyday struggles and living of people. Biggie was good but tupac is a legend
2 Pac is a rapper, Biggie Smalls is a rhymer, there is a complete difference. 2 Pac rapped about issues, Biggie rhymed about Versace. Pac was fact, Biggie was fictional. Both was Kings at there craft, one was not better than the other, I am a biggie fan myself, but crys when I hear Pac plead on a song, both had there mark in the Hip hop community, a very unfortunate beef, ended it all, why do we kill each other, and be proud of it? Why is it more popular to kill that nigga, then to love that nigga? Why am I weak because I got a heart? These are the questions that we should ask on the forums. WHY? BTW...its this cool dude online showing love and support for the hip hop community, he's at www.todaysbeats.com, check out this guys tutorials, if your into music you'll feel it. http://todaysbeats.mysitespace.com/movies/reason_tutorials_free/reason_tutorials_free.html
no way can you ever settle g.o.a.t arguments. especially when you compare players across eras. lots of people love 2pac or biggie because it reminds them of a great era in their life.
You should end all the debate, this should not even be a discussion. Biggie aint got a movie, and I got to use two hands to count all of pac's albums. West Coast! :D
i luv my baby pac , that fat ass killed him i'm glad he died.2pac will alwayz be#1. :cry:
How can some of you people say some of the things you are saying? Biggie was the streets, cause every nigga from the streets respected and could relate to him. everything he said you or someone you know could relate to. he was an entertainer, he wrote storys of what goes on, he wrote storys that made you think you were there with him. Tupac is one of the best rappers i have ever heard, the difference between Tupac and Biggie is that Tupac does for Black people to what Eminem does for white people, he plays with your emotions and thats why everycat loves pac. when you were down he made you feel happy and vice verser. you could kill a whole army listening to Pac, no doubt.... But even though he was that good in that you could relate to him so much, even if your not from the streets, Biggie was lyrically a better rapper. The way Big put words together, the meterphors he used, which probably to the average hip hop fan you wouldnt understand were unbelieveable. He was a phenomenon, and i dont believe anyone not even Krs-one or Rakim were even close to him. not at all.... Grab Notorious B.I.G wake up show last freestyle, for the greatest freestyles you will ever here, trust you will flip. the top 5 rappers of all time in order: 1.Notorious B.I.G 2.KRS-one 3.Rakim 4.Tupac Shakur 5.Jay-Z Fighting fo the rest of the top 10 spot. are 10 of the greatest rappers (not in order) 6.Nas 7.Scarface 8.LL Cool J 9.Big Daddy Kane 10.Big Punisher 11.Guru 12.Black Thought 13.Big L 14.Kool G. Rap 15.Masta Ace IF ANYONE IN THE WORLD WANTS TO ARGUE. PLEASE LAY IT DOWN IM SPEAKING THE TRUTH. IM A TRUE HIP HOP HEAD. IM JUST LAYING IT DOWN. NO DISRESPECT TO PAC. PAC IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE RAPPERS IF NOT MY FAVOURITE. BUT I LOVE HIP HOP MORE THEN PAC, MORE THEN BIG and THATS WHY I CAN GIVE YOU THE GREATEST RAPPERS OF ALL TIME WITHOUT BEING BIASED..... PEACE.
brilliant post my man. you really put that shit in perspective.
that is a sick post the list was creative, and the qoute: "BUT I LOVE HIP HOP MORE THEN PAC, MORE THEN BIG." im fellin you with that one
RIP biggy and 2Pac they are both great rappers
I don't think anyone can touch them because of their legendary status.
there deaths definately made them into icons sick rappers but if someone else comes along better than they wont be knocked off the top cos they died at their peak. if eminem just after lose yourself he would of gone past them but he had to stay alive!!!lol
My personal favorite is 2pac, but you can't compare the two. They had 2 totally different styles. It is a matter of oppinion. You will never be able to convince a true 2pac fan Biggie was better or Vice Versa.
yo i think dat 2 pac was all it and shit he was THE REAL THING every 1 hyped up biggie after his death the real rapper was 2 pac his lyrics were frm the mind the heart and the soul all of biggies shit wasn't all it so 2 pac R.I.P he was always da best and dey can neva be anotha of him
pac was a bigger star for sure. he was even a movie star for fuck sake. he was real good in juice.
[b:f83dcb43fa]ya'll shuld c dat dey both rocked da mike an dey both luved wat dey did like pac says "a soldier lives 1000 deaths but a coward lives jus 1"dey both soldiers let im hav a brake R.I.P BROVAS CUS DER IS A HEAVEN FO A THUG AN U IN IT [/b:f83dcb43fa]
:twisted: 2pac biggie aint nuthin next to pac!!!! :!:
2pac is the saint of hip hop.
[quote:bb5d3f600c="Ice-Walk"].in my opinion it is good that they died but tu pac is like one of my best friend.[/quote:bb5d3f600c] Pak like yo best friend, but you glad he dead !? wtf. (To black: Dat shit what u said was real and deep; couldn't have said it better myself) (To v-illin: Anyways, dat Pak lifeline thing was interesting.) [b:bb5d3f600c]R.I.P Pak & Bigs[/b:bb5d3f600c] Hip hop truly Signed "D"
2PAC AND BIGGIE, IS THE UNFAMOUS RAPPERS. THEY WERE BOTH NUMBER 1, BUT SINCE THEY DEAD, THEY STILL MAKIN MONEY, WELL PAC IS. BIGGIE WAS GOOD, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 2PAC 4 PREZ, 2PAC'Z LYRICS WERE TIGHT, BUT THEN AGAIN BIGGIE'Z WAS 2. 2PAC HAD A MORE PAINFUL LIFE, SO HE COULDNT EXPRESS IT MO, BUT COMON BIG'Z WENT TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL. HAHAHA.
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lol wtf nigga they both went to private school dat dont mean shyt lol they both grew up in da worse parts of newyork goin to private school just means they got a scolarship but yea big is tyte as hell he tells u lyrical stories but ders just somthing bout pac the way he flows the way hge can put out songs like changes dear momma and brendas got a baby but he can still flip to anotha side and shyt murder mob deep nas jay z biggie and all of newyork in hit em up and bomb first
I like biggie but for all those people that think biggie is better. Listen to the 3000 pac songs first, then come talk to me.
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[quote:622691d57b="fat_kids_luv_kake"][b:622691d57b]ya'll shuld c dat dey both rocked da mike an dey both luved wat dey did like pac says "a soldier lives 1000 deaths but a coward lives jus 1"dey both soldiers let im hav a brake R.I.P BROVAS CUS DER IS A HEAVEN FO A THUG AN U IN IT [/b:622691d57b][/quote:622691d57b] i think you meant " A coward dies a thousand deaths A soldier dies but once" but good game on being a douche bag!
[quote:25a0661be4="I Heart BUkkake"][quote:25a0661be4="fat_kids_luv_kake"][b:25a0661be4]ya'll shuld c dat dey both rocked da mike an dey both luved wat dey did like pac says "a soldier lives 1000 deaths but a coward lives jus 1"dey both soldiers let im hav a brake R.I.P BROVAS CUS DER IS A HEAVEN FO A THUG AN U IN IT [/b:25a0661be4][/quote:25a0661be4] i think you meant " A coward dies a thousand deaths A soldier dies but once" but good game on being a douche bag![/quote:25a0661be4] yah. good game on dat
FUCK MAN....BIG WAS A ANIMAL ON THE MIC BUT PAC WROTE ABOUT REAL SUBJECTS EVEN AFTER HIS DEATH HES ON THE NEXT PAGE WAY AHEAD OF EVERYONE......I JUST WANNAH KNOW WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY FROM HIS ALBUMS GOIN TO???
his mom afeeni shakur gets some of the money. and suge knight and death row get some of the money. but damn, its disrespectful that this man has to still work after his death.
Biggie is a way better MC/lyricist in my opinion, however Pac had the better beats by far, so????
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