oh another thing annonymous,u obviously aint got ne skillz of yah own,u can even register n give yaself a name,another reason to call u a slut bitch assed wanking off at ur american hip hop....uk rules asshole
this is a fuckin stupid topic.l are you saying that the us doesnt have shit mcs????? you av named 3 good uk mcs there but theres hundreds more. the famous uk mcs are definately better lyricists than the us ones and they dont feel the need 2 mention guns in every sentence and say how gangster they are
I mean we can't be serious here. You ask anyone in the world to name the best 25 emcees. You know what percentage are American? 100%
thats because they are famous. americans are so obsessed with themselves that they refuse to accept anyone elses shit.if some AMAZING mc came to america from england then all the new york "gangsters" would be like, he aint one of us, he aint had to sell crack from the age of 4 and had twelve year gun battles with the cops so i think hes shit if you had to name the top 25 most famous emcees den standard they would be american. some of the uk stuf i hear is so good it pisses me off that they aint famous cos they deserve it but they dont get rich cos they dont chat bout stuf which wil sell records
The Beatles had no trouble coming from across the Atlantic and making a big name for themselves. Real recognize real.
beatles are the greatest band of all time-thats why.... dats just trying to be smart. in general though its a rareity that an english group or whatever makes it big in the usa because americans like to listen to their own
nobody wanted to listen to white folks rap either but white rappers exists. if someone from the uk made a banging hit everybody in the u.s. would buy it.
Definitely seems like a weak ass argument to make a loser feel better about himself. You need to come to the US and wow us. If you get people's asses out of the chairs you'll sell records.
but what im saying is its so much easier for a us rapper to make it big in the us. look at all these shit people on the scene, chingy, jkwon have they wowed you??? didnt fink so but they still make loadsa money if an english bre came over 2 the us doing that hed get laughed at. and also an english rapper wouldnt do that kinda shit cos it aint in our culture. guns, hoes aint in the english culture. its much more gritty over here and thats why its always fuckin raining!!!
Chingy and Jae-Kwon, etc make dance music. Most of the Derrty South style people make dance music. They ain't rapping about guns'n'hoes and they popular too. And Eminem got popular rapping about killing his wife and hating his mamma. The truth is, people who are successful in hip hop now relate their story to people. If someone came from Britain and related their story very well they could sell records. Would it happen overnight? No. You are probably right that it would be harder for them, but not impossible.
UK Hip Hop is better for my ears, as its all about meaning and reason! If you get me? Word meanings are different, Style/Accent is different, circumstances are even different! The majority of what I hear from US mateys is Guns this, Big cars that! Well we aint got that shit as regular as you, so concentration goes on to other things! Klashkenoff and Jehst are too good, met Jehst a couple of times and he is a sound guy too, but check for mans like Skinnyman, Chester P, Rodney P, Roots Manuva, Supanova, Tibbs, and finally me Gleem this is like hip hop lyrics on a ragga beat of my own: http://www.nicevibes.net/Gleem/Audio/Gleem_FFS.mp3 For the hip hop version go to the Hip Hop News and vote whether you think this is better or Hip hop? Peace, Gleem
You motherfuckers should go out and get some guns and cars.
Yah crazy! Got betta things to do! Like concentrating on makin music! LOL Peace 1, Gleem
Ya got to do your own thing.
http://www.ukhh.com/features/video/mark_b-tommy_evans-move_now.html jus some new song out. dunno if you us people will ike it but its more of a poppy beat which you mite feel safe
http://www.ukhh.com/features/video/skinyman-council_estate_of_mind.html this one of the best uk mcs out at the moment. not his best song but its a good listen the estate he does the video is next to me safe
and listen to the lyrics dont be sterotypical and say "oh hes white. he aint got a gat" cos i no some of u americans are liek dat
lastly council estates are like "the ghettos" of america u probs wont get most of the slang but at least try and appreciate leavce crit
Tell us some of the slang.
ok council estates- shitholes(large flats) blud- freind done a runner- ran off(scared) manor-area slums-shithole blazin th gun-shootin yutes-young kids syringes-heroin needles feds-police blocks-estates cotch-relax, hang out blaze-smoke coppers-police murk u- kill u vexed- angry, pissed off next man- next guy crack fiends- obvious(crackheads) stuck in a ghrmye-in trouble kinda, cant get out safe if you was taking the piss bout wanting to know well its here anyway trading culture! safe
i think u are all gimps
took ya 2 months to come up with dat?
The cream of Uk hip hop is easily up there with Americans. But its not just UK hip hop that's not getting the respect it deserves. Alot of the best American artists dont get the respect they deserve either. the whole scene is dominated by Nas, Jay Z wannabes and Fake thugged out MCs, who just talk about money and guns. it's all fashion. And everyone in Hip Hop is effected by it, not just UK artists. At the ned of the day it sells, because people like buying into lies and idols. For something realer and fresher the US has the underground locked, but also the UK has got some really inspirational artist as well. Check out Roots Manuva at http://www.rootsmanuva.co.uk, he has a new download single out, check out Taskforce, Ty, Phi Life Cypher, Rodney P...and you'll see a rare glimpse of reality and honesty in ryhming.
It's obvious that US and UK cultures are too different to say who's music is better. Don't judge americans because of our music. Don't forget where hip hop started. NY. Besides you gave us Craig David and we was feelin him for a minute. You can't expect us to like mc's named Chester P or Supanova because that doesn't sound hip hop. You stick to your style and we will stick to ours. Maybe one day you UK mc's will make a platinum record.
yeah. chester p. lol!
[quote:8a80c51d67="smoker420"]I mean we can't be serious here. You ask anyone in the world to name the best 25 emcees. You know what percentage are American? 100%[/quote:8a80c51d67] NO URE WRONG IF U NAME THE BEST rappers THEN MOST OF THEM WILL BE AMERICAN BUT THE BEST MC'S ARE BRITISH NOT AMERICAN...MCS AND RAPPERS ARE DIFFERENT YA KNOW :twisted:
[quote:e16b71010a="smoker420"]I mean we can't be serious here. You ask anyone in the world to name the best 25 emcees. You know what percentage are American? 100%[/quote:e16b71010a]
WOT AND NAMES LIKE CHINGY AND NELLY ARE SO MUCH BETTER----NELLY IS AN ELEPHANT FOR GOODNESS SAKE
i be bumping chester pee all weekend. filled all six discs in my holda
the whole point in chester p and his brother farma g is that they are takin the piss! they dont need names to prove that they are sick so choker dont try and be clever wit your bitch comments cos we all know your bumping britney speares and usher out your car farma giles hackenbush is farma gs long name. do u really think hes being serious?
that why they fill my holda mufucker
dunno wot a holder is so dat dont really help :roll:
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british hip hop will neva reach main stream, not becoz its shit, but because americans dont understand our culture. american culture is so indoctrinated in us becoz of films, music, magazines etc. we understand there slang, way of life and experiences with out even having to go there. where as british culture is a mixture of jamaican, african, indian english etc etc. neither of these cultures are mainstream enough for people outside of these groups to understand the slang, our way of life and experiences. secondly, black music in britain is so under funded that production tends to be shit, videos cannot be produced, promotion and advertising is limited, so people in britain dont even know about certain british hip hop artists. thats why people in britain need to support channel u ( sky digital 467) its one of the only forums where new comers in black/ urban music get a chance to show case there talent. we also need to buy british music aswell, we listen to it, like it, but would buy a bootleg copy of klashnekoff or kano but then go HMV and buy jigga or nas. Its fucked up but das how shit is
straight no chaser, firstly why you calling it black music?? uk hip hop has 50 50 between white and black. and secondly chanel u is mostly shit. too many wankers TRYING to be american klashnekof is sick but much better around phi life cypher, taskforce, skinnyman, jehst, foreign beggars, black twang etc etc the best thing about uk hip hop is its for everyone get me? it aint just for black guys who hustle. its for the black/white/latino/indian and everyone safe
ska, reggae, and now even dancehall and jamaican hip hop have all had mainstream success in the U.S. if its good, people here will buy it
It aint about Black White US UK , hip hop's hip hop, get me? The biggest selling most popular music in the world. Talent is Talent. There is only a few spaces for the dopest mc's about. [u:ad01727d4e][b:ad01727d4e]My opinion[/b:ad01727d4e][/u:ad01727d4e] is: Jadakiss, TI, Talib Kweli, Skinnyman, Klashnekoff (is top out of those 5) at the moment, Jay Z is the Greatest of all time. I Wish the Hip Hop community would drop the Black White stigma aswel, i'm white and i love hip hop, cant picture my self not listenin to hip hop. this is the 21st century. Please. Accept Appriciation whenevr and whereever. and if u all about 50 cent anf g unit, then forget it, ur not worthy to speak, rappers like that are ruining hip hop, no thought or skill is in there work apart from the odd Lloyd banks metaphor. if u mention a ho, a ak, a vest in every song that dont make u a dope mc, it makes u a liability to your fans, especially the younger generations. f*ckin grow up. 1
anyone who says "black music" sounds fuckin racist to me
exactly jjb to jimy k i hope you was talkin to the person above me cos wot u sed is wot i was sayin safe
UK, Yeh man, definatly. There are some artists on channel u who are tryin to be american and that pathetic, it should be supported though for showcasing our true talent. yeh and quit with the "black music" ish whoever's been callin hiphop that. educate urself. ur offending millions of real hip hop fans. u dont call rock music "white music".
wtf y is yall still beefin like iv said hip hop needs to leave uk alone and let them do there own thing
we aint beefing at dat shit, we just been talkin about people calling hip-hop/rap "black music". they must be fucked up in the head or sumthin... dropped on their heads as a baby, maybe
Have any of you brits ever been to the US? I told you man, you can't stereotype americans from what you see on tv. You also can't stereotype rappers who rap about ak's and money because they make other songs too. I don't see why everyone is hatin on g-unit, they're tight. If you don't like that type of rap fine but don't try to come up with philosophies on rap to voice your opinion.
Yeah. Rap philosophisers my ass. Most people pretend they hate G-Unit but lip-synch the songs.
UK cant rap about guns, bitches and money, cuz they dont have none, they got nasty ass teeth, and they are too scared to commit a crime, The US gets GRIMEY straight up, nobody from the UK could come to the hood and do a bit of nothin
thats why london has a higher muggin rate, crime rate than any city in the u.s- fact why do none of you look outside the box and realise that not everything is in the u.s i can guarantee you the worst parts of london are muh worse than the worst parts of the u.s, if only you could see what happens here. and then if u go further to compare that to brazillian favellas etc that makes u think, that the u.s is a load of pussys wishin that they were still fightin meaningful battles, when really nothin happens where u are anymore :roll:
Forgive me but is it not a bit fucking ridiculous to be boasting and arguing about who's city has the highest amount of mugging/gang trouble/gun crime or whatever? If you think its cool to live in a place like that why dont you all get together and buy an island in the middle of the pacific ocean where you can shoot at each other as much as you like. If you yanks stopped to think for one fucking minute you'd realise that poor black people killing each other is just what cunts like Bush and Cheney must love. The Black Panther movement and Malcom X should't have wasted their time. Shit
bush don't give two shits what black folks do. and i agree that crime is nothing to brag about. in my neighborhood the following happens: people fight with fists daily. they use knives very often. on weekend or special occasion they get out the machetes and the guns. on many occassions they fight right in front of my house, and this includes crowds of up to 80-100 people! this is a crowd of mostly black people but def some whites too. now i have no idea how it is in your hood, but i am not proud of any of these ignorant bastards at all. as soon as i get enough money, i am moving out of this bitch. btw, the hood has tons of dealer, hoes and various people right out of most hip hop sonds. and i laugh at anyone who says "man this nigga didnt stay hood when he got famous and rich". nigga, would you? fuck dat.
nobody is braggin about anything its just the way of life and im simply stating this from where i come from where your life means nothin but the space on the floor your laying in. I know from the bottom of my heart that the US would get straight ugly with UK, London, and any other country that is too pussy to get involved in war. Im sorry that Brits and the English are sour pussy's but dont argue the facts that the US's crime rate is higher than yours just be glad you dont have Bush or Chaney running your country!
what the fuck?>?? my brothers fighting in the fucking war. britain is the second largest army in theiraq at the moment you ignorant fuck. tmore brits were killed by american forces cos of ther incompetence than iraqi militias. dont fuckin talk bout shit when people are involved you ignorant bitch u dont know what its like to not know when ur brothers comin back cunt